Comments on: I’m Too Angry To Come Up With A Snappy Title Right Now http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/ I'm the scofflaw in your mother'hood Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:53:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Pat http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-1395 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:12:43 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-1395 CHANGE "the teacher not assuming Sabrina was wrong" to "the teacher assuming Sabrina was wrong" CHANGE “the teacher not assuming Sabrina was wrong” to “the teacher assuming Sabrina was wrong”

]]> by: Pat http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-1394 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:11:18 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-1394 I've experienced the kid-not-on-the-bus scenario. I've had the school put me on hold to try to find her, but I thought that was reasonable. They have hundreds of kids, and they do not check in and out with the person answering the phone. She had to call my daughter's teacher, which is only logical. What I find unreasonable and unacceptable is the teacher not assuming Sabrina was wrong and then not apologizing. She must have the mistaken idea that to maintain her authority as teacher, she always must be right, even when she's dead wrong. Now for some perspective. This child was fine. There was a problem with 1 teacher that can easily be remedied with a call to the principal. I bet if Sabrina had gone to the secretary and asked to call mom, the outcome would've been different. There's reason to be upset enough to take action, but this is not a crisis indicating a grade schooler must tote a cell phone or cannot ride a bus. Kids lose cell phones, and cell phones get stolen. My kids get along just fine without them, and I know where they are. If you make it clear to the school that your child WILL be allowed to call you on whatever number, and you make it clear to the child that she must call, she has zero need for a cell phone at school. I’ve experienced the kid-not-on-the-bus scenario. I’ve had the school put me on hold to try to find her, but I thought that was reasonable. They have hundreds of kids, and they do not check in and out with the person answering the phone. She had to call my daughter’s teacher, which is only logical.

What I find unreasonable and unacceptable is the teacher not assuming Sabrina was wrong and then not apologizing. She must have the mistaken idea that to maintain her authority as teacher, she always must be right, even when she’s dead wrong.

Now for some perspective. This child was fine. There was a problem with 1 teacher that can easily be remedied with a call to the principal. I bet if Sabrina had gone to the secretary and asked to call mom, the outcome would’ve been different. There’s reason to be upset enough to take action, but this is not a crisis indicating a grade schooler must tote a cell phone or cannot ride a bus. Kids lose cell phones, and cell phones get stolen. My kids get along just fine without them, and I know where they are. If you make it clear to the school that your child WILL be allowed to call you on whatever number, and you make it clear to the child that she must call, she has zero need for a cell phone at school.

]]> by: dixie http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-295 Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:12:38 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-295 Well up until 3 mins ago I wondered what school to send my kids to. The one where the bus stops in front of our house or the one I have to drive them to everyday. Not a problem anymore. You poor thing, my hands were sweating just reading that. Are you thinking cell phone or beeper? I get it now why people do that I think I may be on board. Have you stopped shaking yet? Well up until 3 mins ago I wondered what school to send my kids to. The one where the bus stops in front of our house or the one I have to drive them to everyday. Not a problem anymore. You poor thing, my hands were sweating just reading that. Are you thinking cell phone or beeper? I get it now why people do that I think I may be on board. Have you stopped shaking yet?

]]> by: Kirsten http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-291 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:05:50 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-291 Kimberly, you left out the best part -- about the teacher making Sabrina wait until the teacher could "look up the correct phone number" -- for twenty minutes, while she futzed around cleaning up in her classroom. That's the part that really kills me. And yeah, lying, and putting it on a child. Completely inexcusable. It's thinks like this that make me understand why some parents homeschool. Kimberly, you left out the best part — about the teacher making Sabrina wait until the teacher could “look up the correct phone number” — for twenty minutes, while she futzed around cleaning up in her classroom. That’s the part that really kills me.

And yeah, lying, and putting it on a child. Completely inexcusable. It’s thinks like this that make me understand why some parents homeschool.

]]> by: ann adams http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-282 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:28:04 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-282 I can rationalize some of it up to the point where that hack wouldn't let her call. You must have been terrified. Not nuts about you being put on hold either but perhaps other parents were calling at the same time if there were several who missed the bus. I understand your reluctance but I believe I'd be in there at least making sure it never happened again. I can rationalize some of it up to the point where that hack wouldn’t let her call. You must have been terrified.

Not nuts about you being put on hold either but perhaps other parents were calling at the same time if there were several who missed the bus.

I understand your reluctance but I believe I’d be in there at least making sure it never happened again.

]]> by: Boo'sMommy http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-281 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:17:53 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-281 1) How frightening and irresponsible. I would say something -definitely. A school should be more careful then that. And NEVER PUT A WORRIED MOTHER ON HOLD! I don't know if Canada has them but the U.S. has cell phones for as little as $29.99 and you can pay per call - truly for emergencies only - if you were interested in one for Sabrina. 2) What custody battle? Sabrina? No - how could that be. 1) How frightening and irresponsible. I would say something -definitely. A school should be more careful then that. And NEVER PUT A WORRIED MOTHER ON HOLD! I don’t know if Canada has them but the U.S. has cell phones for as little as $29.99 and you can pay per call - truly for emergencies only - if you were interested in one for Sabrina.

2) What custody battle? Sabrina? No - how could that be.

]]> by: Jenny http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-280 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:12:16 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-280 I'm so ticked off I'm hyperventilating. How totally inconsiderate! I’m so ticked off I’m hyperventilating.

How totally inconsiderate!

]]> by: Leslie http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-279 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:29:16 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-279 If it had happened to me, I would be livid. The school wouldn't be able to keep me away from the priciples office. If, for some reason, Diva girl is singled out by her teacher for it, I'd be back in the priciple's office. NO teacher has the right to call your child dumb (or even to imply it) or to blame them for something that isn't completely their fault. Also, she obviously shirked her duty by not informing the office of the disturbance and late children. So she royally screwed up deserves to be called on it. Otherwise, she's gonna keep up her behavior. What would you rather happen, Diva girl be singled out for the second half of the school year, or an incompetent teacher keeping up the current practice of holding the class back and not informing you? If it had happened to me, I would be livid. The school wouldn’t be able to keep me away from the priciples office. If, for some reason, Diva girl is singled out by her teacher for it, I’d be back in the priciple’s office. NO teacher has the right to call your child dumb (or even to imply it) or to blame them for something that isn’t completely their fault. Also, she obviously shirked her duty by not informing the office of the disturbance and late children. So she royally screwed up deserves to be called on it. Otherwise, she’s gonna keep up her behavior. What would you rather happen, Diva girl be singled out for the second half of the school year, or an incompetent teacher keeping up the current practice of holding the class back and not informing you?

]]> by: Mandy at Dandysound http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-277 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:02:09 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-277 I'm so livid over this whole story. I don't know your background (anything about the custody and whatnot) but I do know that when someone is in the wrong they should take ownership and make an apology. Putting it on someone else, especially a child, is unacceptable. And she downright admitted that your daughter tried to call you and she told her to hang up. ARGH, that's just uncalled for. I started writing about what you "should" do but you don't need to hear that. Good luck with this! I'm interested in knowing how it turns out and what the teacher has to say for herself in terms of dismissing a child's valid attempt at calling her mother. OMG, how did your daughter feel about that? Being told she wasn't doing something right that she knew was in fact right? Oh, now I'm more livid. I’m so livid over this whole story. I don’t know your background (anything about the custody and whatnot) but I do know that when someone is in the wrong they should take ownership and make an apology. Putting it on someone else, especially a child, is unacceptable. And she downright admitted that your daughter tried to call you and she told her to hang up. ARGH, that’s just uncalled for.

I started writing about what you “should” do but you don’t need to hear that. Good luck with this! I’m interested in knowing how it turns out and what the teacher has to say for herself in terms of dismissing a child’s valid attempt at calling her mother. OMG, how did your daughter feel about that? Being told she wasn’t doing something right that she knew was in fact right? Oh, now I’m more livid.

]]> by: Lady M http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-274 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:29:07 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/10/30/im-too-angry-to-come-up-with-a-snappy-title-right-now/#comment-274 OMG. This is why parents start doing crazy things like getting their six-year-olds their own cell phones. I would expect a little more help from a teacher! OMG. This is why parents start doing crazy things like getting their six-year-olds their own cell phones. I would expect a little more help from a teacher!

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