Comments on: Tizzy http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/ I'm the scofflaw in your mother'hood Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:17:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Kirsten http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1530 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:06:52 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1530 Yep. Granted, our rich people can't get quite as rich as your rich people, but at the same time, our poor people are for the most part not nearly as destitute as your poor people. Turns out that socialism? Not quite as evil as it's made out to be. If you're working to pay the rent or mortgage week to week, like most of us are, socialism doesn't suck. Yes, I do have to give up a lot of my income to taxes (but not to an HMO who will refuse coverage for anything more than a Tylenol and a bandage), but if I get suddenly sick, I won't starve to death or find myself carrying a $20,000 debt. Our literature sucks though. Suspect that has to do with the Northernness rather than the socialism, however. Yep. Granted, our rich people can’t get quite as rich as your rich people, but at the same time, our poor people are for the most part not nearly as destitute as your poor people. Turns out that socialism? Not quite as evil as it’s made out to be. If you’re working to pay the rent or mortgage week to week, like most of us are, socialism doesn’t suck. Yes, I do have to give up a lot of my income to taxes (but not to an HMO who will refuse coverage for anything more than a Tylenol and a bandage), but if I get suddenly sick, I won’t starve to death or find myself carrying a $20,000 debt.

Our literature sucks though. Suspect that has to do with the Northernness rather than the socialism, however.

]]> by: Cait http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1529 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:46:39 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1529 Yay Canada. There's been more than one time I've gone to the American polls wishing we had benefits like you do! Yay Canada. There’s been more than one time I’ve gone to the American polls wishing we had benefits like you do!

]]> by: Kirsten http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1528 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:34:42 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1528 I'm ashamed to admit that, once or twice, I've had a bad day and gone out to be someone's blogtroll. It is, briefly, satisfying to say mean things and raise such a ruckus, but it's soooo easy to forget that all the people you're talking to are real. I usually try to get hold of myself before I press Submit. I usually manage. And when I don't, I get all kinds of hits to my blog! But then no one knows where to spew the vitriol -- all over my posts about dyeing wool? About my latest craft market? Not much to judge there. Just a bit of info, for all our American friends. The Ontario government allows single mothers to stay home, supported (barely) by government assistance money (welfare), until their children are 6. SIX YEARS OLD, people. Kimberly, for the record, has never been without school or a job for more than a few months at a time, since her kids were born. Just in case there are readers wondering about that "lazy" question. And if she did choose to stay home on the "barely enough to eat the cheapest food and live in a rat-hole" money that the government provided, I'd think that was fine. I'm proud of my government for taking care of the province's children. And the studies show that the stereotype of the multi-generation welfare family, and the "welfare queen", is an extraordinarily minor component of those who go on assistance. Most are on for 6 months or less, just as a bridge to get them through an unexpectedly lean time. I’m ashamed to admit that, once or twice, I’ve had a bad day and gone out to be someone’s blogtroll. It is, briefly, satisfying to say mean things and raise such a ruckus, but it’s soooo easy to forget that all the people you’re talking to are real. I usually try to get hold of myself before I press Submit. I usually manage.

And when I don’t, I get all kinds of hits to my blog! But then no one knows where to spew the vitriol — all over my posts about dyeing wool? About my latest craft market? Not much to judge there.

Just a bit of info, for all our American friends. The Ontario government allows single mothers to stay home, supported (barely) by government assistance money (welfare), until their children are 6. SIX YEARS OLD, people. Kimberly, for the record, has never been without school or a job for more than a few months at a time, since her kids were born. Just in case there are readers wondering about that “lazy” question.

And if she did choose to stay home on the “barely enough to eat the cheapest food and live in a rat-hole” money that the government provided, I’d think that was fine. I’m proud of my government for taking care of the province’s children. And the studies show that the stereotype of the multi-generation welfare family, and the “welfare queen”, is an extraordinarily minor component of those who go on assistance. Most are on for 6 months or less, just as a bridge to get them through an unexpectedly lean time.

]]> by: Stephanie http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1525 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:40:11 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1525 It nice to see someone big enough to apologize when they feel they're wrong and nice to see that apology accepted graciously. Something we don't see much of these day, whether on-line or IRL. It nice to see someone big enough to apologize when they feel they’re wrong and nice to see that apology accepted graciously. Something we don’t see much of these day, whether on-line or IRL.

]]> by: Catinthebox http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1522 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:27:42 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1522 Kimberly, I won't comment under this post again but I wanted to say thank you for your kindness. It was lovely of you to be so nice, when I was so awful. I had a moment to read through your archives and I can not believe that I so sorely misjudged you. And for that, again I am sorry. I think that you are making wonderful choices for your family and I can not believe that I thought you were anything else. I think that if Diva Girl and Zen Baby/Toddler learn half of their mother's wisdom and compassion then they are blessed. Keep up the great writing, and I will keep reading and again, my apologies. Kimberly,

I won’t comment under this post again but I wanted to say thank you for your kindness. It was lovely of you to be so nice, when I was so awful.

I had a moment to read through your archives and I can not believe that I so sorely misjudged you. And for that, again I am sorry. I think that you are making wonderful choices for your family and I can not believe that I thought you were anything else.

I think that if Diva Girl and Zen Baby/Toddler learn half of their mother’s wisdom and compassion then they are blessed.

Keep up the great writing, and I will keep reading and again, my apologies.

]]> by: Lady M http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1503 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 07:50:10 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1503 Wow, I miss a day and all this drama plus reconciliation. Kimberly - I'm wishing you well on the job. On an unrelated note, I've been tossing lots of magazines during this big housecleaning and smiling every time I see High School Musical articles, thinking of you and your girls! Wow, I miss a day and all this drama plus reconciliation.

Kimberly - I’m wishing you well on the job. On an unrelated note, I’ve been tossing lots of magazines during this big housecleaning and smiling every time I see High School Musical articles, thinking of you and your girls!

]]> by: Kimberly http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1479 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:06:08 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1479 Hey, we all have moments, Dude! No worries here. Seriously. Being bitchy is fine. It's the trolls I have issues with. That sounded like a genuine apology to me, which takes you right out of the troll category. You're more than welcome to hang out here if you want. Believe me, I get hard years. I hope next year is better, and if you ever do want to talk about your troubles, I'm listening. Hey, we all have moments, Dude! No worries here. Seriously. Being bitchy is fine. It’s the trolls I have issues with. That sounded like a genuine apology to me, which takes you right out of the troll category. You’re more than welcome to hang out here if you want.

Believe me, I get hard years. I hope next year is better, and if you ever do want to talk about your troubles, I’m listening.

]]> by: Catinthebox http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1478 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:46:44 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1478 No, I don't have a blog. If truth be told,I don't have enough guts to put my life out there to be judged. But I learned a real lesson today. I've had a hard year, a really hard year and I think that sometimes my anger gets displaced and I become awful. And I hate that about myself. Life is a learning process though, and while I don't always like myself, I've learned to apologize when I am wrong. And I was wrong here. And rude. And it was out of line. I can't say that I won't have other bitchy moments, but I'll try harder to think before I speak and not just shoot off my mouth when I don't know all the facts. So again, I'm sorry to Kimberly b/c I was wrong, rude and out of line and to anyone else I may have offended. No, I don’t have a blog. If truth be told,I don’t have enough guts to put my life out there to be judged. But I learned a real lesson today. I’ve had a hard year, a really hard year and I think that sometimes my anger gets displaced and I become awful. And I hate that about myself.
Life is a learning process though, and while I don’t always like myself, I’ve learned to apologize when I am wrong. And I was wrong here. And rude. And it was out of line.
I can’t say that I won’t have other bitchy moments, but I’ll try harder to think before I speak and not just shoot off my mouth when I don’t know all the facts.
So again, I’m sorry to Kimberly b/c I was wrong, rude and out of line and to anyone else I may have offended.

]]> by: Kate http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1476 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:02:29 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1476 Hey cat in the box do you have a blog? Im kinda curious because I think it would be a good read. for one you are the first troll that I have ever seen with enough guts to apologise and secondly because things are obviously as hard/interesting for you as the rest of us. Hey cat in the box do you have a blog? Im kinda curious because I think it would be a good read. for one you are the first troll that I have ever seen with enough guts to apologise and secondly because things are obviously as hard/interesting for you as the rest of us.

]]> by: Catinthebox http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1467 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:40:12 +0000 http://parentingwithoutalicense.com/2007/12/03/waiting-to-exhale/#comment-1467 You know what Kimberly, you're right. I don't agree with all of your decisions and your life choices but I shouldn't judge you for them. After all you're putting them out there on the 'net and I'm not. So I'm sorry. Perhaps I was too harsh and misinformed. Lesson learned. You're right about the USA having lousy benefits too. I'm glad your government can support your choices, mine can't. I won't bother you again, and I'm sorry I was so rude. It was out of line. You know what Kimberly, you’re right.
I don’t agree with all of your decisions and your life choices but I shouldn’t judge you for them. After all you’re putting them out there on the ‘net and I’m not. So I’m sorry. Perhaps I was too harsh and misinformed. Lesson learned.
You’re right about the USA having lousy benefits too.
I’m glad your government can support your choices, mine can’t.

I won’t bother you again, and I’m sorry I was so rude. It was out of line.

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